Dagmar Bauer Prigatano & Liz Clifton Interview Transcription:
Liz Clifton: Woo and welcome. It's my absolute honor and greatest pleasure to welcome the amazing, wonderful Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano.
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: Hi Liz and hi everybody. It's a pleasure to be here. Thank you for having me.
Liz Clifton: So excited to connect with you here. Okay. So the very first question, what does self-care mean to you?
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: Well, self care to me means that I am able to understand my needs, in a sense, to regulate my health and wellbeing this out a healthcare professional. Actually be more so to be a mirror of myself and my needs and tends to those needs as I go along.
Liz Clifton: I love that. So it's like a prevention rather than a care. We don't need to seek the self-checkout side of ourselves because we're fulfilling it ourselves.
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: Absolutely. So as I am by professional licensed Acupuncturist, Health and Wellness Coach, and, and also an Essential Oil Advocate also, I, practice not only what I preach and substance speak. And so by very much so being aware of my needs, trying to integrate, also according to my knowledge and tend to it in order to create a balance of actually prevent dis ease, right. And so given, oftentimes life or genetics life and, other external influences, especially these days, right, the stress levels are higher than ever. And since it is so, of vital importance that, we do tend to our needs, more than before.
Liz Clifton: Yeah, I love that. And say, on a daily basis with your own self care, do you have like a routine that you follow, are there certain things you're checking in with?
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: Well, yes, I do have my routine, you know, aside from the usual thing that everybody talks about it, like exercise and you gotta be quiet and your pray at time. Yes, I do all of those things also. So I have a tendency to try to get up early in the morning and use the quiet time to early morning time to, tune in. Yes, I do have my prayers in the morning. And just to kind of like, actually even before I get out of bed, just scan a little bit. As, to how I'm feeling and what has come, what is coming up and also how I wish to see my day to go about. And so, so after quiet time and tuning in and setting my intentions. And, having some time to speak with my husband about what's happening. I tend to always go for a walk with my puppy of course.
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: But, what I do is I get ready for the day and as I have tuned in, accordingly, I managed to either create my breakfast or, as I get ready in my, in the morning for my day also. So I attend to integrate my essential oils, very much so to my needs. So I do address my physical, my mental and emotional or spiritual need also. So, so as they, just like, you know, lend themselves also to on this vibrational, level, in a very simple, but very effective way to even tune into your phsyco spiritual needs. And to create oftentimes a little bit of a shift, as you go about your day. So this is pretty much my routine in the morning, but also in the evening as I settle down again. So, definitely twice a day or, whenever possible throughout the day. I also try to take a moment to see, what I can do about it being, being assertive and being a giver.
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: I have learned over the years that it is vitally important. You know, if you're a mom, if you're a giver, we get to give to ourselves first, you cannot give from an empty cup. So tuning in making sure our needs are met also, is, just, is a given, you know, we cannot give from an empty cup. Yeah.
Liz Clifton: That's beautiful. So, thinking about your own self-care journey, do you remember your very first like memory of self-care?
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: Actually I do. And so the first memory of self care was actually when I, you know, I don't, I don't know how old I was. Maybe three or four maybe, but I do remember in, being a little girl sitting in, in my bath tub, water. You know those little white bath basins, when you're a little child when you're growing up. So remembering my mom giving me my bath and my routines, you know, of my bath. So taking a bath is still a favorite thing of mine and, definitely, brought some keen awareness also of tending to myself and needs. So yeah, definitely.
Liz Clifton: Aw that's beautiful. And, and how would you say your self-care has changed kind of over your lifetime?
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: How has it changed over my lifetime. I would say, again, going back to, doing what I'm doing in my life here. And supporting others to help them, deal with step pain, preventative pain, as an acupuncturist and coach also, but not just step pain just in general also with their challenges also. So, and what I have integrated, I myself has done have gone a lot deeper. Also with a greater understanding of myself and tending to myself. And with my experience since then also, and my knowledge to just try to convey to others, to go deeper. To find greater understanding of yourself and you know. And so I think one of the most important things, I mean there is so much, out there right. We all know, self care, meditation and yoga and what is out there and what's available and what we should do. But what are we doing? Or what are we not doing?
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: And so when we are not doing it, I think, I like to ask myself and I tend to have a way of asking others well if your not, not doing it. What really is underneath? Why aren't you doing it? Why aren't you following through? Because the information is out there and it's available. So if you're a making, you're having a, you having a choice, you know. If you are creating, even just like you Liz as you're promoting take34u, right. Cause few minutes per day to just take quiet time to tune in or do something simple, like maybe enjoy a cup of tea, or go for a brief walk or take a few deep breaths. So, so just tune in, how are you standing and what is coming up? So if you're not doing it and creating the time, what is underneath, why now So, really, I have to say all of the above here, as I have gone along and along in my self care, just been able to go deeper in my journey about all of this along the way.
Liz Clifton: Yeah. I love that. And I think it's so important that you terming it as a journey and as practice. Because we start wherever we start and then it's each little tiny step that we take along the way that we get deeper into ourselves and into that connection. And we're able to quicker kind of connect with what it is that we actually need in that moment. But it all takes practice.
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: Practice, practice makes perfect. Right. And so, you know, oftentimes we have been exposed to trauma, and trauma is painful. And you know, we may be able to move on and intellectually make sense of things. But on an emotional level or deep deepen, a cellular level, trauma gets stuck often times. And so it's not always pleasant to, confront and to look at trauma. And what has been there of what may keep us stuck again. Or why we are making certain choices we do or don't do so. But the thing is life is, is such, you know, if life was easy, we would never evolve and have a greater sense of awareness. And really reach a higher level of being. And, so this is just part of the journey and trying to understand self in order to have more, joy in our life. And really tapping into, living our most joyful journey here. And that's really what we're here for and creating harmonious, joyful, uplifting relationships while we are here.
Liz Clifton: Yeah. That's beautiful. So pulling on that, that joy piece, what do you do for yourself for joy?
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: Oh, you know there are so many things that I liked. I like to do for time all about joy. It's wonderful. So anything that I'm in nature. You know, so nature, the simplicity of nature feels me up. And, it's just the beauty of it. And, my little puppy makes me happy. And, if it's, you know, by the beach of, I did mountains and horseback riding and I love to travel. I, you know, these days is COVID, it's a civil harder. But, I can make for the day to go back and travel the world again and explore other cultures and other places. So, that is what I love to do, in the external world. And, you know, as I go out and when I'm here, you know, just, being with, my family also. You know, doing the, the little things that simple things, or sometimes, you know. Being and taking a nap can be rather choiceful. And so.
Liz Clifton: Yeah, I resonate, like we were talking about earlier exactly what I did this morning.
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: Yeah. It'd be all needed and, you know, taking a little nap without feeling guilty. That's big, you know, a busy society. Yeah.
Liz Clifton: It is, so thinking about what are your very favorite places to be, to go to?
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: Well, one of my favorite places, and I think you asked the question the other day in the Facebook group is the ocean. And so of the ocean, you know, the vastness of the ocean. And I do like any kind of body of water if it's a lake or a stream on. So, but I think the vastness of the ocean, you know, that keeps the magic and the curiosity being closer to the unconscious, I guess, you know. As you're near a body of water and assumptions, that kind of keeps you curious and stimulated about like what a small speck we really are in this vastness of this universe. And the potential that is here, that we have, that we live tis in. So, we are in, microcosmos in this macrocosm and, it's just always wonderous to be there and also enjoy the freshness of the ocean. Realizing, you know, a continuum in renewal and restoration. And the ability that we have is if we'll listen to the needs that we actually have and what is available to us. So that's brings me joy and that's where I like to be and hang out.
Liz Clifton: Yeah, it's a piece of fur. And I think just looking at that, the vastness of the ocean of it, without water. You realize just everything flows or the emotion or that dis-ease, that, you know, we spoke of before. It can just flow back through. And at that, the kind of the essence of everything is there's little tiny droplets of water and it all just keeps processing, keeps moving. Yeah.
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: Absolutely. Exactly.
Liz Clifton: Yeah. That's beautiful. Thank you.
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: Liz you're welcome.
Liz Clifton: And then another question I have for you is you said about traveling brings you joy. So where's the first place that you get to go explore next, when you know, the, kind of the limitations that are taken away?
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: Well. I think one of my places to go, I'm going to, I was going to go, but it was cancelled. Unfortunately, I'm going to head to Tibet. And so trying to see if I can get to the, on the hiking trip to the Himalayas, and then also my husband and I would love to go and visit Greece. I have been to Greece before, but just trying to explore a little bit more of the islands again and surrounded by the beautiful waters. So those are two of the destinations that we have in mind to go to.
Liz Clifton: That's beautiful. Thank you for sharing. And I could see you lit up when you start to speak about it. So it definitely does fill you with joy.
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: Yes it does. It's like, okay, tomorrow it can go on. Yes, what time I'll be there. That's an adventure. Life is an adventure. So just sometimes we need to be spontaneous and allow ourselves just to go, you know, Right. Yes I love it. It pulls us. So.
Liz Clifton: I love it, love it. And that again, that pulls you back into that intuition, you know, being in the moment and spontaneous.
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: Absolutely. Yeah. So acknowledging your feelings and your thoughts on some, just exploring a little bit, you know, of what are you feeling. What are you thinking this out judgment, assessing and analyzing, you know, it's just like to really just allow your thoughts and your feelings to come and go. And just as you're as a by stander and then just to observe as to what is. And so I met some students come up to just say, oh, isn't that interesting. You know, and see what comes about. Or, or asking, well, where is that coming from? And why is that So a little bit going into just self exploration and then just the fact of accepting, acknowledging, and accepting what is. Versus, if it is uncomfortable thought, an uncomfortable experience that comes back and trying to push it aside, because that is what gets us into trouble. Right And so on. So many levels, if it is reseller help, if it isn't that way environment is, you know, in relationships. So this is really book creates that in Chinese medicine called stagnation and not that flow. And also just, being totally accepting and loving of oneself, despite it all. And also understanding it is part of who we are and what we need to become, and not to reject that part in us.
Liz Clifton: Yeah. That's absolutely beautiful. I think there's such a big kind of link with like self-care and self-love, you know, they kind of combine. And it is one this and that, because when we're caring for ourselves, we're loving ourselves unconditionally and allowing ourselves to feel whatever we feel in that moment as being just perfect for us right now.
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: Absolutely.
Liz Clifton: And then working out, how do we support ourselves?
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: Yes, absolutely. Being standing in total self-acceptance and self-love. And by doing so realized that you have such potential, you know, this out that limitations, deputy can propel to your desired life to just stand this in that, by not holding back and not rejecting any part of your being. So, yeah, but it's always easier said than done. And so self that's, why self-care, it is so important just to check in all the time. And, you know, if you don't have, domains or not necessarily the time all the time. Or, you know, we don't want to be, overly, hypochondriacal about sings and runs to see somebody every five minutes. So learning that self care and self-understanding, and being able to reach for some small things, you know. And this is why, for example, I love to advocate to using some of the purest essential oils also. Because these on a vibrational level, you know, for God knows how long, right.
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: If it's several thousands of years. And so even going back to the Egyptian times, right. Where, for example, myrrh and Cyprus was used to, mummified bodies and thousands of years frankincense has been found and still had a wonderful, smell to it all. So in order to just, you know, using the small things, to change your vibration levels. And supplying it properly, choosing the right things, to be able to help yourself. And so, and some of those, oils as they're pure, you can use them for your physical needs. If it's pain or digestion, you can use him to shift that psychospiritual aspect also, or, you know, the way you feel emotionally. So, and some of them, if they're pure enough, you can even maybe implement as you're preparing your food and your nutrition. Which is another way of self-care right. Choosing the joy again, the choices that you make by understanding yourself. Also knowing when to add or when to delete and just really trying to adjust. So you can find that balance, in yourself.
Liz Clifton: Yeah. that's beautiful. So, if you're speaking to someone who's coming at self-care for the very first time, where would you suggest they begin?
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: I think again, meaning if the haven't been anything for themselves, you know, again, to try to, explore why they haven't. To really say, why, why, why have I not created the time? And what's been keeping me? And what is the individual understanding of self care. What are their needs? And in order to understand your needs, you're going to have to create room and space and make a little bit of time. So when we don't have time and when are always busy, it certainly is an intimacy issue of not wanting to feel specific emotions or experiences. So I think if somebody comes to the first time towards self care. It is, well, I have, because when does self-care start, how have you been taught self care? When does self care start? Does it start when via going, you know, already when your little growing up? Is a self care time that our parents teach us a little quiet time to just read and be for a few minutes every day.
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: Is it the teenage years? When does, when does self care start when? When have you started and how do we go about it? And if we haven't, again why not, what are you avoiding. So really the first time self care, I would explore why not, and what are our needs? And then once you understand your needs, then it will be much easier to make the necessary choices, right. If somebody has a need to, if they're going to be more physical and want to go for a jog and want to do yoga, right. If this is what settles possibly their anxiety or help with their depression, or just to work things out and create that space for understanding and relaxation. Then I think it's just vital to make sure, okay, how many times a week can I create how much time. In order to, you know, have my needs met and what is it that it will take for me to maybe have those hundred and 50 minutes a week You know, is it two times a week for 75 minutes. Is it, you know, however you wanna, set it up and whatever the schedule allows. So really being able to schedule the time into a the day.
Liz Clifton: It's so beautiful. I could listen to your voice for hours.
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: Oh, thank you Liz. Alrighty.
Liz Clifton: Yeah. You have such a beautiful energy as you're explaining, you know, and I, I really feel like that flow coming through you. Yeah.
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: I've really learned to embody and try to live as to what I've got a, preach, so to speak. And so, it is one of my highest aspirations to support somebody else in order to be able to unfold. Really and go about their lives so that they can live the life that they've been desiring. So it's something very small, that to just click and shift gear, so to speak. In order to get on that path, you know, so it'd be all this sunlight is a journey, right. And so become a paths meet for some reasons. Some people stay for a long time. Some people come and go, but one of my, life's philosophy is that I want to, wherever I go along, I want to do my part in life. Not to force anybody, but if I can be of support and help them, that's what I'm here for.
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: So I love what I do, and I don't have to say it's, it comes and was reinforced just even more so, so, you know. I've been in my acupuncture practice for almost 30 years now. And have had that same philosophy and that lifestyle approach because Chinese medicine is not just the form of medicine. It is a lifestyle and the way we approach life, the very Daoist approach of how we, again, in this cosmos, in this universe. And so, as it lends itself to address the physical, you know, is the pain, the mental emotions that had psychospiritual aspect also, and how things can shift. And so, you know, many of my patients and clients have often times come very distraught, into my practice and into my life. And as we go, have gone along, they have been able to, you know, create what their deepest desire was.
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: And, and quite honestly, money doesn't give you the satisfaction. Than just seeing somebody reached their joy also. And knowing that you have been able to be just a small little conduit in helping somebody to get there. So it's been very satisfying. So.
Liz Clifton: Well thank you. Thank you for your service.
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: Thank you. Yeah. So, but we all try to find something like that. Right. And so, yeah, but, again, sometimes we do something that doesn't necessarily resonate with us. And so, and there are so many little things or fears that can be part of why we don't do it. So even that little shift of finding something that really resonates with us, of who we are, right. And to be our unique self and net contribution in the world and letting your individual light shine. And do what really is important to you so that you can unfold, you know, just that is of such importance also.
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: Yeah, yeah.
Liz Clifton: Completely. And I think that's the ultimate self-care, isn't, it is to connect to yourself and then let yourself be yourself.
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: Exactly.
Liz Clifton: And, and that's it. So it sounds really simple, but it isn't easy.
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: You're right on that one.
Liz Clifton: Aww thank you so, so much for your time. I absolutely appreciate your wisdom so much. Yeah. This has been an absolute pleasure.
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: Aw you're so welcome and you're audience also, I hope they can take a little part of it and find some encouragement here to just bring it those three minutes by you, as you're saying, and start to tune into what I really do.
Liz Clifton: Thank you.
Dagmar Bauer-Prigatano: You're welcome.