Thank you for joining me your host Liz Clifton and my wonderful take34u Self Care Series: Creating Calm Confidence Guest Tim Hinde as we share self care secrets, top tips and stories of our experiences.

It's an absolute pleasure to support you with your own self care journey as you take34u and enjoy our chat below:

Tim Hinde & Liz Clifton Interview

Tim Hinde
Vice President of Sales at Heartcore Leadership. He is a versatile and innovative international C-Level operator, experienced in national and international turnaround, new start-up and ongoing business development projects. A multi-channel, multi-location and multi-format best in class leader with demonstrable financial results in mature and developing marketplaces, first to market opportunities and mature sector development. A history of creating robust and diverse multi-discipline teams with a strong focus on organizational growth, stability and performance in the European, North African, Middle Eastern and North American geographic and economic areas

Tim Hinde & Liz Clifton Interview Transcription:

Liz Clifton: Woooo and welcome. Thank you so, so much for joining us and I'm super excited to welcome the amazing Tim Hinde President Vice President of Sales at HeartCore Leadership. I just promoted you. 

Tim Hinde: There you go from Vice to full on President. Thank you so much. 

Liz Clifton: I'm sourcing it. 

Tim Hinde: Amazing. 

Liz Clifton: And yes. And thank you so much for being here with us today. 

Tim Hinde: Thank you for asking me. An absolute pleasure.

Liz Clifton: And mine too. Okay. So first question. What does self-care mean to you? 

Tim Hinde: Well, self care actually has taken on quite an important role in my life. Because as a teenager, I kind of lived like right on the ragged edge and I get to pay for it now. So things ache and creak and squeak a little bit that perhaps they shouldn't do. So self-care for me is making sure that, I don't overindulge in eating. It means that I get some form of exercise, every day I would like to say. I, I have probably at least three times a week, I do serious exercise the rest of the time. It might be, you know, messing around at the beach, taking the dog for walks, that type of thing. but the one thing that I've learned as I've got older is sleep getting, if, if I don't get my eight hours of sleep, don't talk to me the next day. It's like a bear with a sore head. So, so sort of self care is, is a mixture of all of those put together. And that kind of helps me get through the day with all the various ailments that I carry with me because I thought I was indestructible. 

Liz Clifton: Yeah. I think a lot of us, you know, go through that stage at some point in our lives. 

Tim Hinde: Yeah. Well, my Stage seemed to be a very long stage. So I'm kind of learning to live with it a little bit. Amazing. 

Liz Clifton: So what, what caused you to change Where is that like the change and beginning to the cost yourself and actually realized?

Tim Hinde: So two major things happened. first of all, I had, neck surgery, I've had, I've had two neck surgeries. I have degenerative, vertebrae, my neck caused by a number of things. but the main thing is bad posture. and I had to have surgery to correct that so that I could have any sort of quality of life because it was debilitating. and so that resulted in me having to my posture. So by changing my posture, there were knock on effects. Where, I was suffering from a bad back, not because I had about that, but because I was holding myself differently, the muscles had to relearn how to do things. and so to get through that, you know, I realized I had to lose some weight. You know, if you look at the charts on the perfect weight for somebody who's six foot five, but I'm only five foot eleven. 

Tim Hinde: So there's a little bit of a disparity between where I am and where I should be. So I needed to lose a little bit of weight. And then, I had the onset of arthritis in my left knee. And when to see my doctor and said, Hey, what are we going to do about this and he said. Well, there's, you're too young for a knee replacement and you can't cure rheumatism and arthritis. You can't cure it. You can only manage it. He said, lose weight because that will obviously take the pressure off of it. But get active because activity generates lubrication and eases the stiffness in the joints. And, and it does. I notice when I don't have activity in my life during the week. During the night I'll, my knee will lock up and I'll get, it'd be really painful. Whereas the more active I am, the freer that knee is, and the better my life is. So those were the two real key things and they kind of, that's like in the last 15 years, they've really sort of impacted me. 

Liz Clifton: Wow. Well, thank you so much for sharing with us so openly, and I'm sure that actually that bit about, you know, the joints and the activity, making it more like lubrication and easing the pain. I'm sure that's going to be, you know, really supportive for a lot of people. 

Tim Hinde: Well, I mean, you Tim Hinde: Know, surgery is not always the option, you know, and, and know, my, my, my wife is, is, is a doctor. And she always says, if you go to a surgeon, he's going to recommend surgery because that's his job. Yeah. So you've got to be a little bit careful with the advice that you do get, I'm not to say, that's not to say that doctors give bad advice, but you've got to take what they say from their viewpoint, not necessarily from, you know, from where your staff to understand what they're telling you. Yeah. 


Liz Clifton: And I think that's important across the board. Isn't that we always speak from whatever, like our point of view of the world is. And it's just remembering that. 

Tim Hinde: Exactly. 

Liz Clifton: Oooh amazing and say, when you began to consider your own self-care, what did you start with? 

Tim Hinde: So I started straight away with fitness because growing up, I was very, very active. you know, I'm probably the same as 99% of all the people out there. And that is when I'm at the gym, I enjoy it. It's going to the gym that I don't enjoy. So I sort of made a commitment. I find myself a local, a personal trainer that specialized in dealing with people with, ongoing physical issues, not disabilities, not injuries, but just issues. So for example, you know, I can't go around lifting heavy weights because of my neck. And I can't do these big deep squats because my knee just, just won't take it. So we sat down and we had a very, very frank conversation. And we put together a system where I could work out vigorously without putting stress on the areas that, I shouldn't be putting stress on. But also working to strengthen around those areas that they were less impacted. There was less impactful on them. so yeah, I mean, and that was the easiest thing. Cause you know, eating is my favorite hobby I love to eat. So eating was the last thing that I wanted to tackle. So I thought I'll just get into fitness first. 

Liz Clifton: I love it. So then we did begin to tackle the eating. What was your, your route to that? 

Tim Hinde: So, I hate dieting. I hate feeling hungry. Okay. And I just, like I said, I just love food. And there is a company here. I'm not sure if it's, if it's a global company, but here Nutrisystem where they create menus for you. It's really, I mean, the food is not the best food in the world, but it does, it does the trick. And I went on, I followed it to the letter. Okay. And I lost 27 pounds in eight weeks with exercise and calorie counting the weight just fell off. Now the problem is this is Nutrisystem is not something you can maintain. So when I came off of it, there was a spring back in my, in my weight. But I've been right now, I'm sorry, but I don't work in stones anymore. I've forgotten about it. But right now I am, about 218 pounds, which is still a little bit on the heavy side, but I've been able to maintain around that weight. Now for about, for about five years job. Which I'm really, really pleased with, my goal is to get it down to 200. I'm not really aligned with 200 because if I was, I would be there now. So I think in my mind, I'm really settling for around the 218 mark. Because I know the effort is going to take to get me down to the 200 and then maintain it. 

Liz Clifton: Yeah. I resonate with you. 

Tim Hinde: I think everybody does if they're really honest. Yeah. 

Liz Clifton: And I think in my own journey I lost, well, I released, you know, like 23 kilograms over kind of the lockdown period. And I've had issues with my hair and it has, it's made a huge difference. So yeah, so that there is hope and there are ways to do it. And there's a way that we'll see everybody, it's just taking that time to be open and honest with yourself. And then open and honest with perhaps an expert that can support you to actually, you know, find that way, the smoothest and most effortless way that you can. 

Tim Hinde: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, and my personality is a personality that doesn't ask for help, but this was so important to me. And I knew I couldn't do it on my own. If I tried to approach it some way on know I was going to fail. And again my personality is, I don't fail. So, so, you know, I was, I think it was a very, very mature and sensible decision to go out and look for ways of gaining support to get me, to get me through it. You know, I would each to their own, but you know, it just starting out on that road, the more support you can have, the easier that journey is. So I would kind of, I would tell or recommend anybody, you know, don't try and do it on your own, get some help, get some help, whatever that help looks like.

Liz Clifton: Yeah, absolutely. Cause I think it gets you to remember that you're not on your own. You're not the only person in that situation. And also that accountability. I think for me, that was a huge part. Just having people that I could check in with, you know. Just check that you are kind of keeping on going otherwise it's very easy. After a little point, you hit a bit of an obstacle and you're just like, oh, it's too hard. 

Tim Hinde: The other thing that I find is is that I've become addicted to my iWatch and it buzzes at me and tells me to stand up. It tells me to breathe. It tells me to do it goes, woo you've achieved your goal or whatever it is. And it's really weird that this tiny little piece of technology on my arm rules my life. But again, it's that little bit of accountability, it's it never forgets. It never forgets. So yeah, I get it. Yeah. 

Liz Clifton: Yeah. I love that. And is it, that's a brilliant use of technology yeah, just to remind us when perhaps we might forget. 

Tim Hinde: Exactly. Yeah. Even tells me you need to drink. Come on. Really Okay. Go get my bottle of water. Yeah. 

Liz Clifton: Ooh, that's amazing. So you have your physical exercise, you have your iWatch checking in with your breathing, checking in with your water intake. Is there anything else that you check in with on like a regular or a daily basis, like emotionally, mentally? 

Tim Hinde: So, one of the things at the beginning, I said, one of the things that I learned is I need to sleep. And, for as long as I can remember, I go to bed and things spin in my mind. And it used to wake up, wake up at two o'clock in the morning, but things spinning around in my head and couldn't get back to sleep. And a friend of mine said, when you wake up into thinking of something, just write it down. I'm like, what's that going to do? And he said, well, what it does is your brain can then release it. The reason it's spinning in your, in your head is because you don't want to forget about it. So by writing it down, your brain goes, we're not going to forget because it's written down. I can go back to sleep. So I have been a proponent of that for 20, 26 years now. I have a pen and paper next to my bed and I write notes so I can sleep because it still happens. I still get these ideas, you know, processing stuff from the day. And, I would write it down and I go straight back to sleep. 

Tim Hinde: So it was one of the little things that, that, that I do to sort of, help me through. The other thing that I do is I read, religiously just before I go to sleep. As it means a decompression and, you know, I read anything and everything. But when I say, you know, I read a book every 10 days, so I I'm serious serious reader. In addition to that, I have audio books that are on the go as well. So I probably have three or four books on the go at any one time, but every single night I go to bed, it drives my wife to distraction. She's like for goodness sake, put that down. I'm like I can't. This is my, this is my ritual. So I, I read for like half an hour, 40 minutes every night. And that just decompresses and just gets things to shut down and switch off so that I can, I can, and I usually go to sleep straight away. 

Liz Clifton: That's amazing. Thank you. Any top tips that you're, you know, you're putting in here. 

Tim Hinde: There's no point getting older, if you don't get wiser. 

Liz Clifton: I love that. So thinking about yourself, what do you do to celebrate your wins? 

Tim Hinde: I would love to celebrate with donuts. So it is really strange. Fitness-wise I celebrate like going to the next stage, like levelling up. That's my reward. You know, I, just moving into the next phase. Because the nice thing with fitness is you can see an improvement every single day. Yeah. Things become easy. You become stronger, you become faster, you become more supple, whatever it is. And I like to achieve, so my reward in that respect is I get to do the next thing on the list. Whatever my instructor tells me, it is, with regards to looking after myself, nutrition-wise, a reward for me, we'll go out and eat. Because the other thing I found is that eating out regularly, isn't, it is almost impossible to lose weight. Because restaurants cook everything in butter, they put salt on everything. That's why it tastes fantastic. 

Tim Hinde: Yeah. So I w you know, we cook at home throughout the week. We cook at home religiously, you know, breakfast, noon and night. It was all homemade food, but to the winds, it's like, you know what, we're going out tonight. And we'll go to a restaurant and eat some really nice food. And that's my win and not feel guilty about it. That's the key is to eat it and enjoy it and not feel guilty. Yeah. In terms of sleeping, as long as I can remember, I've woken up at 6:00 AM. Don't need to set an alarm clock every morning 6:00 AM wake up. My reward on a Sunday is turning over and go back to sleep. That's my reward. and I look forward to it. I don't know, Saturday. I don't know why Saturdays, I wake up. I'm up. I think a lot of that is also, I like to watch the football. So for being in California to watch the football, I have to get up at 6:00 AM in the morning to watch it from the UK time. So, well, some days, yeah, I turn over, I go back to sleep and it is just the best feeling in the world. 

Liz Clifton: Ooh, that sounds amazing. 

Tim Hinde: Yeah. This morning I was so tired. I didn't I just wanted to go back to sleep. We're getting there. Yeah Sunday's coming. 

Liz Clifton: So pushing on from that, obviously your lie in on a Sunday is one of your favourite places to be. With that in mind what are the places that really fill you up with joy? 

Tim Hinde: So, first of all, any beach, it doesn't matter where it is the beach. I love the beach. So, when I lived in the UK, I lived, North Devon, which has excellent surfing beaches. So when I was growing up, I used to surf loved it. And then I moved to Bournemouth on the south coast by the sea. So, I was, I was in the Police Force. My, my beat was the beach spend all day driving up and down the beach. It was fantastic. So I love that. And obviously, now living in California, we have some beautiful, beautiful beaches. I used to spend a lot of time when I was in the UK on Dartmoor. And man, it doesn't matter what the weather is doing. I could just be on Dartmoor every single day. It could be freezing cold. It could be rainy. Tim Hinde: It could be sunny doesn't matter. It's I think it's the, the barrenness of it. You can actually be in places and you can look around and see no footprint of man. There's no houses, no telegraph poles, no walls known as just like more land. It's beautiful. And then here, here in the US Lake Tahoe is about a seven hour drive from, from where I live. It's, it's a lake up in the Sierra Nevada mountains, and the lake is at 7,000 feet. So it's, it's high up, but it's, it's the fourth deepest, fresh water lake in the world or whatever. It is beautiful, surrounded by maintains and, is just mesmerizing. And again, I would just, there's a little beach there. Like I sit on that beach and just look at the views and it never gets old. 

Tim Hinde: Yeah. Lucky. I'm lucky yeah. 

Liz Clifton: That's beautiful. And I think as for so many people, just that moment in nature where you get to just be just like absorb everything that's around you. Yeah. 

Tim Hinde: Yeah. And I, I truly get that, on, on Dartmoor. I, I did a lot of hiking when I was younger on, on, on Dartmoor. so I have a lot of good memories of it. But it's just, there's nowhere else in the world. Like it there's literally, there was nowhere in the world, like it, and it's just, it's all inspiring. It really is. Yeah. 

Liz Clifton: I love it. And it will say the, you know, the ponies they're free and they're so different to any that you see anywhere else. 

Tim Hinde: Oh yeah, absolutely. And of course they got some good pups, so you can get a good beer afterwards. Tim Hinde: A little reward. Tim Hinde: And then your fish and chips by the seaside. 

Tim Hinde: There you go, Bridport Lyme Regis, the best place in the world for fish and chips let me tell you. 

Liz Clifton: Yeah. It's amazing. We are spoiled with that here. 

Tim Hinde: Yeah.  When I go home to see my parents or my mom, the first thing, as soon as like she goes, I don't even need to ask exactly the local GP, get my fish and chips, come back. Thank you very much. You get fish and chips here, but it's just not the same. They do this beer batter. And it's like, why, why can't you do them normally. 

Liz Clifton: Keep it simple. 

Tim Hinde: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. 

Liz Clifton: Sure. Well, thank you so much. You have been absolutely amazing. 

Tim Hinde: Yeah. It's been fun. 

Liz Clifton: And it's just flown, just flown by. As like a very final question. You shared a lot of things, you know, about where people could start with their health and their sleeping. Is that like a final point for someone that's maybe coming at self-care for the very first time, like a beginning point that you'd suggest? 

Tim Hinde: Self care is an ongoing process. There's not a, there's not a finished line. Yeah. Set yourself up to win. Don't you know, don't enter it, say I'm going to lose a hundred pounds in four weeks. Don't, you know, just don't do that because you'll end up, you might lose that for that a hundred pounds, but it will be so distressing. That you'll switch off afterwards. So set yourself up to win, set, meaningful, realistic objectives. And as, as you said, celebrate them. But know that this is a journey. Once you start this journey, you don't stop. There is no finish line. You just keep it just destinations along the along the way. 

Liz Clifton: Yeah. Liz Clifton: That's beautiful. Thank you. A perfect summary to a beautiful interview. Thank you so much. 

Tim Hinde: Yes, just remember this (holds up a heart sign). 

Tim Hinde: This has been, fantastic. Thank you so much. 

Liz Clifton: Thank you so much. It's been absolutely amazing. And I'm so pleased to have connected with you. 

Tim Hinde: Indeed. Thank you. And hopefully this is going to be successful. 

Liz Clifton: We'll source it. 

Tim Hinde: Thank you Liz. 

Liz Clifton: See you soon. 

Tim Hinde: Bye bye.